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100 SMD leds on a second power source?

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

gvanrekum · 2010-01-02 22:01 UTC

Hi!

For a new project (Coca Cola christmas truck) I want to build in 100 yellow smd leds. I want to connect these leds to a second, 2,4v, power source.

The big question is: how do I do this?

The most ideal situation is to make it happen with an v1.1 decoder, cause i've still got some...

Thanks!

Greets,

Gerard

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

hnouwens · 2010-01-02 23:55 UTC

Gerard,
maybe just use a separate (3,6V) battery pack and a switch? The truck has plenty of space. You can even use a plain 9V battery.

Hans.

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

gvanrekum · 2010-01-03 09:21 UTC

Hans,

No switch for me... i want to turn the lights on /off with the decoder...

Greetz,

Gerard

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

hnouwens · 2010-01-03 12:23 UTC

Gerard,
then you have to switch them using a transistor. And here is where my practical knowledge stops...
You will have to find a transistor that you can control with the output of the 1.1v decoder.

Hans.

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

lvperlo · 2010-01-03 17:48 UTC

Hi Gerard,

Sounds like quite a lot of LEDs ;-)

If you have a power source of 2,4V you can drive yellow LEDs without a problem. If you connect the LEDs in parallel with series resistor you can switch them with e.g. a BSH103 mosfet. The BSH103 can drive 800mA. I would not stretch it to that limits, e.g use 400mA max. If you need more, just put a second BSH103 in parallel.

If you want to drive white LEDs from 2,4V you'll need a step-up converter. You can make a white LED driver with e.g. a TPS61070 and a few additional components. The TPS61070 can be switched on/off by a decoder (1.1) output.

If you have 3,6V you can drive/switch white LEDs in the same way as the yellow ones: with a BSH103

If you want I can make some diagrams for you after my holiday. Be aware that you'll have to do some SMD soldering.

Kind regards,
Leon

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

gvanrekum · 2010-01-03 20:21 UTC

Hi Leon,

It are just yellow LEDs, so 1 use a second 2,4v source.

I would be pleased with a diagram how to use the BSH103.

Have a nice holiday,

Greetz,

Gerard

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

lvperlo · 2010-01-04 18:34 UTC

Hi Gerard,

A diagram and description can be found at tiki-index.php?page=MCC+versterker&bl=n

It would be nice if someone could make an English translation.

Kind regards,
Leon

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

gvanrekum · 2010-01-04 18:52 UTC

Hi Leon,

Thank you! I'm going to test it out as soon as i have got my coca cola truck (bought on ebay.de)

Thanks again.

Greetz,

Gerard

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

gvanrekum · 2010-01-04 22:34 UTC

Hi Leon,

When I want to connect the 100 LEDs to and second 2,4v battery pack, I just connect the LEDs to the + of this second pack, and the GND to the GND of the decoder?

Thanks

Greetz,

Gerard

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

dafstuff · 2010-01-07 21:46 UTC

Leon,

I translated the page. I am not sure if the page is at the right place.

Regards,

Arnold

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

hnouwens · 2010-01-07 21:50 UTC

Arnold,
The page is nicely translated and in the right place too.

Thank you!
Hans.

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

gvanrekum · 2010-01-10 14:44 UTC

Hello,

The first 26 LEDs are build in:

http://www.spoorh0.nl/index.php/car-system/59

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

lvperlo · 2010-01-10 14:58 UTC

Hi Gerard,

Yes, the anodes (+) of the LEDs can be connected to the (+) of your second battery pack.
Note that the current flows from (+) of your secondary battery via the resistor - LEDs - BSH(d) - BSH(s) to the (-) of your secondary battery. The connection output - BSH(g) is to switch the FET and the connection GND - BSH(s) must be there for reference.

Arnold,

Many thanks for the translation! I made a few minor modifications.

Regards,
Leon

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

dafstuff · 2010-01-14 21:50 UTC

No problem Leon. For me it was the fun to see how good (or not) my English is 14 years after school.

Arnold

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

gvanrekum · 2010-02-07 12:01 UTC

It's finished!

http://www.spoorh0.nl/index.php/en/projects/59

Hij is af!

http://www.spoorh0.nl/index.php/nl/car-system/59

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

hnouwens · 2010-02-07 12:05 UTC

Hi Gerard,

my compliments! looks wonderful. Any pictures of the steering mechanisme and inside?

Hans.

100 SMD leds on a second power source?

gvanrekum · 2010-02-07 12:19 UTC

Hi Hans,

Thanks!

I just added 2 pictures from the steering meganism en the internal of the truck.

Greets,

Gerard